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Reflecting Good | Ivy and Sophie Walker
Get ready to be inspired by the powerhouse duo behind Walker County, Sophie and Ivy Walker. In an honest and heartfelt interview, they open up about their personal struggles with body image and why it's important to dream big and pursue your passions. With infectious energy and a deep love for music, Sophie and Ivy also explain the inspiration behind their latest hit "Mirror Mirror", which is a moving reminder that each of us is uniquely and wonderfully made. So join us for this unforgettable interview, and let the Walker sisters show you how to chase your dreams and live life to the fullest.
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Thank you for joining us for this very special episode of good market live where we're going to talk about struggles, celebrations and strength with two of my favorite people Ivy and Sophie Walker, the sister duo behind the incredible band Walker County. Hey everybody, and welcome to a very special episode of good market live. I am so excited today to share the microphones with my new friends from Walker County, the sister duo from Walker County, Ivy and Sophie Hello, ladies. We are going to dig into some fun topics today. Some serious topics today. And most importantly, we're going to talk about their EP which I'm a huge fan of Mirror Mirror. No smoke and mirrors. Yeah, but Mirror Mirror is the latest release. So we're gonna dig into that. Before we do though, one of the exciting things I think for me when I heard that we were gonna get to do this was obviously this is in celebration of our partnership with good market, Abel and Walker County. It's a tri lab and why it was so special to me was the fact that you guys are from Indiana. Yep. Right.
Ivy:We're born and raised. Sulphur Springs, Indiana
Harry Cunningham:springs obviously good markets from Indiana Fort Wayne and April's from Nashville and you guys now live in Nashville. So it's such a it was like it was like a meant to be it's perfect. So, for everybody that's listening, obviously, we're gonna get into this, but make sure you get out and see the collection that I've been Sophie put together today with April, which is a fun one.
Ivy:We had too much fun.
Sophie:Like a girl's dream and like choosing outfits, you know, it was sure, yeah, whatever we want.
Harry Cunningham:So I got here a little bit of this earlier, but I'd love for either one of you to jump in and talk about like how you got started. And yeah, I don't I'll let you all decide who goes first or how you kick it off. But let's just kind of talk about the childhood to where we are. Yeah.
Sophie:So yeah, I mean, I were born in Indiana. Our dad, we grew up just listening to country music, well, all kinds of music all the time. He was just loved music. So our house was always up to 11 jam and our dad started to learn how to play the guitar. And you know, IV just as a young girl like loved singing to sing. I
Ivy:definitely showed an interest in singing from very,
Sophie:like, like, videos. I always like to seen Anais like
Ivy:Yes. Loves and dad. He always was like, you know, it looked it just looked like something a kid like to do like sing like, okay, she likes to sing, but he was like, I honestly didn't know how good you were at it. You know, I was just like, Oh, my kid loves it. Yeah. So anyway, I started singing at church. And you know, we had a lady back home. She told that she was like, you know, she can sing really well. She's doing key changes. She's like, she's her pitches great. Like, I was like, really? Okay, yeah, right. Yeah. And so dad really nurtured that. And, you know, growing up, he had me singing everywhere, and I absolutely loved it. And then, you know, Sophie got old enough. And Sophie started showing an interest. And so we actually in 2007, when Sophie was nine, and I was 12. We took a family vacation to Nashville. And dad was like, Hey, do girls want to open the guitar case on Broadway and bus just to see just to do it? And so, you know, like, Sure. So we opened the guitar case, and we play like, three songs.
Harry Cunningham:Do you remember what they were what she's saying?
Ivy:I had it was probably bluegrass because we we grew up singing a lot of bluegrass. I'm
Sophie:sure you sing. I followed pieces. That was like, fine.
Harry Cunningham:Like one line? Oh,
Ivy:ah, fall to peace.
Sophie:And also my 12 year old She sounded like that's how she sounded. So people were like, what?
Ivy:Yeah, made like 10 bucks. And dad was like, you know, girls, if you learn an hour's worth of music, we'll go back down. You can keep whatever we make. And so the next month, we had learned an hour's worth of music saying and made felt like 200 bucks for a night. We were like, Yeah, we thought we were making the big bucks.
Sophie:And I were rich, you know? Oh my gosh, we want to offer Mills Mall. I'm spending it all.
Ivy:Yeah. So that was the start of Walker County. We you know, we were called the Twilight back then. That was initially the first name and we started playing anywhere and everywhere. They listened to us getting paid in barbecue sandwiches. You know, making no money doing it, but we loved it. And every weekend we were somewhere new weddings, funerals, I mean like anywhere that
Harry Cunningham:is perfect. Yeah.
Ivy:You know, that's how initially Walker County started and we didn't start playing music. I mean, since it was you know, nine it was on so
Sophie:natural how it just kept going. We kept getting booked. Like just it was just so obvious. That was the path we were supposed to be on.
Harry Cunningham:Did you Love it right away
Sophie:like did you love to do it right away did it and I it just became part of us we did yeah, we loved the every aspect of it. Meeting people playing the music, writing our own songs. Dressing up our hair. Yeah makeup and you know that all started at a young age. That's a
Harry Cunningham:that's a really interesting point. You mentioned hair makeup too because your mom, she's a hairdresser. Yeah,
Ivy:we rounded by all
Sophie:these wrong locks. I had buzzed hair. I had like a mohawk. I would do like fun. She biking, colorful, and yeah, that's always been a part of us just like doing the fun, like outrageous looks. Yeah, but and I
Harry Cunningham:think that's important message too, though. Because like, your family was cool with it. Like you just really totally been back then you were able to be self expressive, which is great. And there's so many people that can't be but there's there's not a look at what happened because you
Ivy:were I talk about that, you know, not only to data, courage, our dream of music, but we have mom who she let us wear and look how she was so fun to and sometimes we're like, Mom, why did you let us look like that? And she's like you wanted your hair? Well, you know, but it was so it's so important. Now looking back that she just made us feel beautiful no matter what we were wearing and how we looked. And
Sophie:she did I was telling my friend about that. I was like my mom never once was like, Oh no, you're not wearing that. She'd be like, Oh, that's fun. Like, let's wear this to like, you know, she would encourage it so much. And she was really fun in high school. You know, she'd ever been here and dangly earrings. And she's all the steps that she loved. She loved that we were added to that. And I'm so glad she encouraged that for do you think
Harry Cunningham:that's something that you all will carry forward as you maybe become moms one day
Sophie:to the chill? 100%? Yes.
Harry Cunningham:What's the message you think about for that girl that might be out there today whose mom won't let them do that?
Ivy:You know, it's a hard position to be in because your mom, you know, moms are a big part of your life and you want to you know, you want that approval. But I just you know, it's okay to be different. Because I promise it is, you know, society nowadays, I can't even imagine growing up in the Tick Tock era and the Instagram era, I was kind of on the outskirts of it. It started to become popular when I was in high school, but it was still not like it is today. So I can't imagine. But once you get out of high school and out of all that and out of your parents home and be start becoming yourself, if people embrace it, people love it. People love the uniqueness of people. And I think that's so important to know, like, we still get you know, people go, who were in school suddenly, like I loved how you dress. And that's the time somebody was like, No, you know, nobody thinks I dress cool. They're all laughing at me. But they'll be like, I loved when you had your hair like that. Or people do love it. Love you creates
Sophie:a confidence thing. Yeah.
Harry Cunningham:I have a 14 year old daughter right now. Yeah, I have a 14 year old son Tim. But that's part of the beauty I think of being a 14 year old is that there's such an opportunity. And you know, if I think back to where you guys were when you were 14, obviously you were 1114 or 17 and 14. It's such a dynamic time in a young person's life. You know, and there's so much positive that can come out of it. So no matter how it sort of how bad it is today, doesn't mean it's that bad forever. And also how good it is today, it might get even better. Yeah. You kind of jet propelled from where you are to where you Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we have. That's, that's exciting. So you, you come back, you raised about a couple 100 bucks. Yes. And we still live in in Indiana.
Ivy:We're still living in Indiana. So the whole move to Nashville happened kind of like a God thing. How it all happened for us. It was like, I was about to graduate high school. And my dad was like, Okay, what do you want to do? Do you want to go to college? Do you want to I thought maybe I wanted to do hair. I didn't know, you know. And I remember sitting with Sophie and us kind of looking at each other and go into music is all we want to do. It's all we know, we've lived it for these past eight years. Like, that's what we
Sophie:wanted. I was a freshman in high school as well as time. Yeah, well, yeah. And I was like, I was not built for school. I don't want to be here with IVs not there. Because, you know that senior freshman year, I was like, she was my best friend. Her friends were my friends. And I was like, I can't even imagine going back to school. It was just not a good environment for me. So that also was like, if we could focus on music if I didn't have to go to school every day and I could be homeschooled. Then we have all this extra time during the day to write and create stuff for music. So that was kind of a no brainer for us. We were like yeah, definitely let's focus on music and just try you know,
Ivy:so that next year we really put all of our effort in music Sophie was homeschooled and
Sophie:doing drum lessons from last Tsonga boys and nd shout out. They're the best best people.
Harry Cunningham:I was homeschooled because I know That's, there's a lot of homeschool that happens now and both ways either from school to homeschool or from homeschooling traditional. Yeah. Was that a trick that a debt at the level of that adapting for Yeah,
Sophie:so I mean I were really good in school we like stay on top of it, we knew it was important. So when it was like kind of my own responsibility to like do my textbooks like it was really good. It was really easy. I I've blessed that like, you know, mom kind of raised me to, you know, put importance on education and stuff. But um, so yeah, I just pretty much like, at that time, we didn't have like, online school or anything we did, but like, that wasn't like my first choice. So I had like textbooks and I just had to like, check in every once in a while. But I just studied for my GED. And once I was able to take that test once I was 16. I took it took I was done. Yeah, good for you.
Ivy:Yeah. But by the time she was 16, kind of fast forward, we were signed to Warner. So we ended up yeah, we made an EP in Indianapolis with the guy who owns and runs Bongo boy Ed Goss. He wanted to work on an EP with us, and he produced and engineered it. And we really, you know, put a lot of time in that we're like, you know, we want this to kind of grow us as a band. We didn't know what where would take us. But that EP like, I think we made 2013 We made it. Yours. Yeah. Which is crazy. So we made that. And he had a friend here in Nashville, Ben Fowler, who he said he can mix it for us. And so he makes the EP and Ben calls us one day. And he's like, Hey, I really like this. Can I give this to some people in Nashville? And we were like, sure, we had no idea how Nashville worked at the time. You know, we were like, Yeah, go for it. Give it to whoever you want. Thinking nothing of it. And a like a week later, he calls us and it's like, Scott Hendricks, who's huge a&r over here at Warner Music Nashville, he, he's going to be calling you guys to come meet and
Harry Cunningham:you're like, whatever. We're like.
Ivy:Man, we looked him up. And we're like, oh, he's serious. Like, we ended up playing for some big people over here at Warner Music. And did
Harry Cunningham:you play in their office did work? We did. They got us. Xenos office? Yeah, we went up. You just like sit in the office and
Ivy:play literally. I mean, they just like okay, play another one. Play another one. Yeah, it was kind of intimidating pressure from 390 people Indiana girls like little town to like, come in here. And we felt like CO like, yeah, office.
Harry Cunningham:Right. Yeah. Excited mentioned. We're actually recording live from Nashville. Yeah. Yeah. In the building where you guys?
Ivy:Yeah, yeah. It was like a crazy story. And I remember leaving that meeting and dad was like, if nothing ever comes from this, no one will believe this happened anyway, like this. It's fine. He didn't want us to stress. But then literally, he was like, I want to take you guys out for a nice dinner to celebrate. And we ended up at Ruby Tuesday. And they called
Harry Cunningham:me Tuesday. It's a buffet. I mean, the salad bar, the salad bars
Ivy:they called us two hours after we left. It offered us an artist. Deal. So it was a whirlwind. But we literally had a meet you at Ruby
Harry Cunningham:Tuesday when they called Yeah, yeah. I remember. Yeah,
Sophie:I remember running out in the parking lot. We honestly couldn't believe it. Yeah.
Ivy:That next day, we had a meeting and they're like now you move to Nashville. You'll start writing you're right over at Warner Chappell. And
Harry Cunningham:which is across the street. Yes.
Ivy:Yeah. And we've been that's been our journey ever since as came to town. We tour we write we put music out and pray one day a song takes off.
Harry Cunningham:Got some good ones. Thank you. So and I think one of the things I learned earlier too is your dad plays with you guys. Yeah, so obviously was grooming it back then. Right? Never thinking probably that you guys were gonna get a deal and but now he gets to play
Sophie:he ya know. And he always we always dream big. We're a big dreamer. So you know, it's funny because I remember being a child and being like, I'm going to be a country singer. Like I knew it in my head like it was gonna happen. And just to see it like actually come true is so cool. But yeah, my dad always encouraged us to practice and put in porn importance on it. But yeah, so the reason we loved playing music so much, it's not just because we're creating we love music. It's also because it was a family thing. You know, Mom was selling merch, me and Ivy and dad were on stage and we had her cousin with us for a long time who played bass. And it was just so special. And when we moved to Nashville, we just we knew that that was if that was going to be like a deciding factor like we couldn't play together. Then we didn't want to do it. And luckily it was good and we were able to keep dad in the band and all of us because that is why we do it. That's why we continue to do it is because playing with her ELA it's just so special. It really, it really is the reason we love playing music.
Harry Cunningham:Sophia, one of the things you said that I think is really struck a chord for me and I talked about this a lot, both with my kids and with people in general is like dream big. Right? Yeah. Said you always dream big. But there's there's something to be said for that. And, and the fact that no matter whether you were playing, you know, with your guitar case, open, or you're getting the record deal, yeah, you're still following the dream, and you don't give up on the dream just because it's tough. And you've got to drive the six hour drive. Doesn't matter, you still keep dreaming. There
Sophie:are plenty of times we've been here in the past nine years now that we should have been homeless or been home, like going back to Indiana. And we haven't Yeah. And then we're just the Lord has just kept us here. And it's so cool to see. And that is one thing is like, we haven't stopped dreaming, we're not giving up. Because the people that make it are the people that don't give up and that you know, struggle, you're dead. But yeah, it all makes it so worth it. When we're with dad, when we're doing stuff like this. It's just so cool that I mean, I like we we love the staff, and that's, you know, it's so awesome.
Ivy:We thrive on these experiences and get I mean, this is, you know, it's a part of why we do music for this moment here, you know, is to talk one on one with people and get to know them. And so this is awesome.
Harry Cunningham:So I want it to one quick question before we get into Miramare. I want to talk a lot about that. Because I know we had some good conversations earlier. Yeah. The name Walker County. Yeah, yep.
Sophie:Yeah, so I've you mentioned when we first started, we were called the Twilight. And then it was in
Ivy:the game, the movie came out and kind of Yeah, we got buried with Edward Cullen. And you know,
Sophie:so it's time to think of a new name. And we grew up on a family farm. Our Town was 390 people very small. But there's a little section when you're driving out of Sulphur Springs that you go through the walker farm, which is my great grandparents house. And then it was our house. Our cousin Johnny and Mark and Debbie and all a walk all of us. We were all walkers just right in that little like, couple mile radius. And Ivy's history teacher was it? Yeah. Bob Rambla? And he said, What about Walker County? And he was like, Oh, that's really good. So we wrote it down. And then we had a few other options. And that was the one we ended up on. Because, you know, we're a family band. It's Walker's our last name. And it just, it just made
Harry Cunningham:me I love it. And you know, I know you guys are big dolly fans, too. So maybe one day there'll be a Walker County theme park
Sophie:and dream day Good.
Ivy:Talks about music festivals. We've talked about it all. We're like, trying to get our cousin's back home who have the land, we're like, come on, like, let us throw a festival or something there.
Harry Cunningham:There's so much potential with your name. Yeah. Makes it really, really cool. Yeah. And I think it also, it feels to me as like, kind of the outsider looking in. It so reflects you guys, or neither one of you are about me. You're about us and our family. And I think that name reflects that. Versus if you were IV and Sophie like, yeah, okay, fine, but doesn't really project who you guys are. Good. Yeah. And I don't mean that you're not individual people. No, it's true. Yeah, tell us your story, in a true way when somebody knows it. So I love that. So let's jump into Mirror mirror and I got the super huge honor of hearing you guys do a little bit of an acoustically today, which was mind blowing to me. I was never I was actually I was talking to my wife and son on the way here. And I said, like to hear people with that much talent be five feet away from you think it was just mind blowing. So thank you. Yes, already liked the song. Good. And I grew up listening to country music. I grew up in the 70s and 80s. Like old country. redolent of Dolly Parton, like Yeah, that's where you're drawn to. So, but yours is a new kind, but it's amazing and beautiful. And you have beautiful voices. And so Miramare is out now. Yeah, and one of the things that I think is really important is that if somebody hears it, they also need to see it. Yeah, they need to see the video and the video was unbelievably moving to me, for a lot of reasons. But I think I'm gonna let you jump in on this. Where the song came from, because I think there's a really, really important story.
Ivy:Yeah, you know, it's crazy because Mirror mirror we wrote it, I want to say three years ago, it was probably three Yeah. And, you know, at the time of writing it, I was going through a really hard time you know, you know, emotionally with body image and loving myself I struggled a lot with that and I you know, I still do I still do this day. It's it never goes away, but I'm getting better at it. But I think you know, I went through kind of like I've struggled with my weight all through going up and and I think when you're in the public eye, it starts to become even more noticeable like people Like, have called me the bigger one with as the sister, you know, or like, I've, I've had been people, you know, say some mean things on our, you know, music videos or like, Oh, she's so photoshopped or stuff and stuff like that. And it bothered me, I really did. And I remember I got super, you know, I tried to go to the gym and I would go two hours a day, seven days a week. And I was at the point where I was starving myself and then binge eating every third day, because I was so you know, I was not getting the nutrition I needed for how much I was working out. And, you know, it was, it was a really hard battle that I struggled with. And I was at my lowest weight, but I was so unhappy. And like, I just, you know, looked in the mirror and still hated myself. And like, I know, hate is a strong word, but I but it was hard. It was hard for me. I never liked myself, I was like in pictures and video, standing directly in front of a mirror I was struggling. And I remember having the idea, a mirror mirror of, you know, a girl talking to herself with the mirror is saying to the girl, you know, like, it's it's been mean, it's, you know, that kind of thing. So I brought it to Sophie. And we brought it to two riders in town, Jin Shah and Otto McIntyre. They're beautiful women very talented. And we know we told them the idea. And we just poured our souls into that song. I it, we wrote it in 45 minutes, it was like so quick. But it was like a song that needed to be written. And, you know, I still I'm, I'm healthy now. You know, I took a break from working out and, you know, reevaluate in my myself and deleted the diet apps and all those things. And, and I, you know, I'm I'm doing a lot better. But I struggled with that for a long time. And I still do I still have days where I think everybody does where they look in the air. And so when we sing that song, and when we put it out, I was like, not only am I putting this out for all those men and women who need to hear it, but I'm putting it out for myself because I need to hear it too. Like I need to hear that message as much as they do. So that's very important.
Harry Cunningham:It's super important. I think you mentioned something that I don't even know if you caught that you said it. But you said it's for all the men and women. It's not just a female thing. No,
Ivy:no. And we've learned that too. Because I think at first because I'm a girl I go girls out there, you know you're feeling that way
Sophie:too. Yeah. When we were playing show no, play it live. Yeah,
Ivy:we would have men come up and be like I struggle with like
Sophie:somebody said, You should change it from shader like they. Yeah, I was like I related to that. Yeah. And I don't think we realize that just because we're, we all have her other girls, you know, are just like in our own world. But yeah, it was eye opening to see that men related to it, too. And I thought that was so so cool that they were feeling impacted by the song. Yeah.
Harry Cunningham:So interesting thing that we were talking about earlier was when I was listening to the song, like the last time that I heard before we were before I met you guys, I think they're almost I interpreted as two different meanings. And one of them struck a very strong chord with me. But then I was like, Wait, there's actually another part to this too. And I don't know if that was intentional or not. But the two meanings that I heard one was that this was a person seeing herself in the mirror and the song was actually directed at the mirror. Person. Yeah, don't beat yourself up. Don't put yourself down. Right. But the other part was also maybe somebody that was being verbally abused. Yeah,
Ivy:yeah. It could be taken either way. And you know, I that's what I love about songwriting is you know, you could be writing it for a certain reason like me, I was writing it for myself like tell yourself you're pretty you are, you are worthy, you are wonderfully made. And then but also somebody could hear who is going through that situation where somebody is being manipulated or emotionally you know, say being told they're not ready and they can relate to it just as much as I do. You know, say in the
Sophie:writing room, I remember that first. First. We were like, Let's not say anything about the mirror just yet. And let's kind of tease the people and think maybe it is like a man telling this to a woman because that's where your mind goes like a relationship song
Harry Cunningham:just in case somebody hasn't heard the first first you mind you just say the first verse.
Sophie:Yeah, it is. You leaned against the wall you look her up and down. You pick out all her flaws when nobody is around. You watch her do her hair. You've seen her all dressed up but sometimes you're so mean when she's not wearing any makeup. And I feel like you could be like that's somebody telling the girl that right? So we did that kind of on purpose. So I love that that's where your mind went and but yeah, and the chorus we were hoping to be like, look her in the eyes and tell her she's pretty Mirror Mirror is saying like you're looking at yourself in the mirror. But yeah, I think it can be interpreted however.
Harry Cunningham:Yeah, in my opinion, the reason that it's so important not just to hear the song because the song is it's a beautiful story. And you know, I've heard a lot of music in my life, but I don't always listen to the story and I was very careful to listen and get to video. But the reason that I think people should also watch it is a particularly moving moment that happens in the video? Yeah. What do you want to talk about that? Yeah, there's a part of it that sticks out to me particularly, but
Sophie:I'll let you guys go. I'd love to share a little bit about that idea. So I mean, I obviously we, we love the song. And whenever we write songs, we immediately think of like, what the music video would look like. We're just visual people. We love that stuff. So we got our friend Alexa Campbell, who's amazing. She does a lot of Carly Pearce's videos and stuff like that. And we're like, we want to take our makeup off in front of the camera. And me and I were like, We're full glam girls. We love big self tan extensions. I
Ivy:work nearly girl. Yeah. And so for us to take our makeup off. That's a big thing. I don't know if we had ever posted even with no makeup maybe
Sophie:like here or there, like on a story, like we look like in our gym clothes or whatever. But for the most part, we like we like to be like presentable and quotations. Whatever you
Ivy:want us to get that point across in the video, we were like, We need to be vulnerable. We need to do this. And I remember sitting with Sophie and talking about it and being like, okay, when we take our makeup off, maybe we'll just like keep a little bit on like we could like, like, a little foundation on or something like that just to make ourselves feel comfortable. But Sophie looked at me and she was like, Ivy, we're doing we're doing the damn thing. We're taking
Sophie:it all off. I remember being there and like thinking like, in my head, I was using the makeup life, you know? And I was like, well, I'll just go back and do a little concealer here. Maybe Maybe I'll keep my eyelashes on, you know, all this stuff. And then I was watching it back this was before I went and touched up. I they played it back for me and it was like me with no makeup on. And I was getting so check it out watching it because you could see my bombs, you could see my red my discoloration, you know, and I saw anyway, so we can't, that would literally be going so against what the song means. Like we have to be for real here. So we didn't we didn't go back and we were like, taking it all
Harry Cunningham:out. And we did I think that was like I think that's the authenticity of it. Makes it
Ivy:so we started crying. It was like it was a very emotional experience.
Sophie:There it's a clip in the video you can see there's tears in my eyes because I was like singing to myself literally in the mirror. Like you're beautiful. Like how you are the way God made you like I just was such a heavy moment and I wasn't expecting to get that choked up about it.
Ivy:And it's and it is funny because like we'll get people like we had you know, tick tock they they put in their two cents whenever whenever they can. Somebody was like, Oh, wow, you're so strong dot dot dot makeup really like taking off your makeup. This is so silly. Like and I remember Sophia and I like we you know, it could seem silly to some people but I think I Sophie made such a good response. And I wish I could like remember where but it was just like
Sophie:I said it was one of the most scary things we've done. That's what she's like scary. You're just taking your makeup off. And I was like, girl you don't even realize like, we feel like we have to wear masks. I mean, we get hate comments all the time. Just about our appearance. Yeah, that's honestly the biggest hate comment we get. It's not even about our beliefs. Like I get if you don't like our music, like that's fine, but like it's about our actual looks.
Ivy:Yeah, I mean, we get you know, it was scary and like being in the world of social media and being women, right? Everybody thinks like, Okay, you need to look this way. You're, you're the big one. You're you're wearing too much makeup. You're orange, you're this I mean we have so many people like who wanted to put their two cents and so for us taking over America was scary. That was scary. It is like pharma almost when you have it on you're like I feel good. I can go out into the world and nobody's gonna look at me weird. And then when you take it off, you're like, Okay, this is me. This is me and that is scary.
Harry Cunningham:Which is that we were talking about that two words to a great song you guys said you were listening to today this is me.
Ivy:Yeah, man. Yeah.
Harry Cunningham:But I think your message is so important for people to hear young, old male female, whatever it doesn't matter whatever. Whatever whatever you however you identify is not even important. The important piece is the story the message Absolutely. And you know there there are not a lot of people that have done that and and said it's okay and I think you were to you were talking about you crying I think the moment for me that I was like this is legit. This is real stuff. It's like your take I think it was you taking your eyelash took the eyelashes off. Yeah, I was like they're really doing this and it's amazing and I think that's part of what made it so true. But I think what it does it it sends a very very strong message that it's okay yeah, we're Yeah, you guys are still fine with who you are. Absolutely. You gals you guys but you Yes, young ladies, you old ladies, you people, whatever you are good the way you are.
Ivy:And we still say we're like Guess what? We love wearing makeup and we're not going to stop wearing makeup. And you know that was like our whole thing was whether you're glam or whether you're no makeup and in sweatpants, and your hair and a ponytail, you're gorgeous like and, and you need to believe it with all your heart because you know, you are fearfully and wonderfully made. And that is like the main thing we want to get across. And because as young girls, you know, our mom, she was super supportive of us, but we still struggled, like we were, you know, we fell, it's just
Sophie:girls, you know, like there's a certain age you've crossed, and then you're like, so conscious of like, how you look at social media has a lot to do with that, and comparing yourself but you know, we're all unique. We're all different. We all struggle with body image issues, in our own ways. But just a reminder that you're beautiful. You're like ivy said fearfully and wonderfully made. That is like, if everybody can feel as beautiful as we think you are, like, I think overall would be a great play. Yeah, no,
Harry Cunningham:I think there's so much to be said for that, too. It's like, you know, that that mental health piece is very, very important that everybody is beautiful the way they are, and, you know, you are wonderful the way you are. And all that is, you know, so important to hear. It's a great message. So I, as I've said before, and I'll say it again, 100 times, listen to the song, but watch the song, please do a video. So before we wrap up, as I as I mentioned to you guys earlier, there's a question that I asked everybody that's on the podcast, and I'm gonna go in reverse age order. If yes,
Ivy:that's fine. Yeah, I want to hear her answer.
Harry Cunningham:So part of what we do a good market. And the reason that we have the podcast market live, is because we want to tell the stories of our partners that are there with us, whether they are partners that are in the store, or partners like you or whatever it is, we want to tell the stories. So turning that kind of on its head, if somebody so if he was going to tell your story, who would you pick to tell your story and why would you pick them?
Sophie:Okay, so it can be like anyone you want?
Harry Cunningham:Anybody Living Dead? famous, infamous? Oh, gosh, that's such
Sophie:a great question. I'm like, Who would I choose? Um, I would probably just my grandma. Yeah, she passed a couple of years ago. I don't want to get emotional. But I felt like she was just a wonderful person. And somebody I really like somebody I strive to be. She was just had an unconditional love about her. And I was talking to an old friend and he said, there was no one more accepting than your grandma. She loved you, no matter who you were. She was type person that had just open arms. She exuded like Jesus's love. And I just love that about her. And so I think that she would tell my story perfectly. And I miss her dearly. And she was just one of our greatest fans. And I would I choose grandma, Jill,
Harry Cunningham:maybe she had some influence on the words this song too. Absolutely.
Sophie:No. And she,
Ivy:she had a song ideas for us. Yeah, she'd have a little piece of paper. I wrote this down because I thought maybe it could be a good sound.
Sophie:She did love mirror marriage. She was able to hear it before. But she was diagnosed with ALS. Was it two years ago now? Yeah, it was two years ago. And so she learned a few things of sign language and she would always do it that I love you sign and then beautiful and she's beautiful. I love you. And I'll just never forget that and yeah, I choose grandma Jill. And I think
Harry Cunningham:important thing that hopefully you guys are okay, sharing you have that? We do. Yeah. Did you have that terracotta tattooed
Sophie:was our sister tattoos. That was my first tattoo. And I said, Oh, grandma's killing me, right?
Harry Cunningham:Grandma knew the Pandora's Box.
Sophie:secretly love it because it was about her. But she'd be shaking her head.
Harry Cunningham:That's that's the fun of grandmas. Yeah, it is. So it over to you then who's going to tell your story.
Ivy:You know what, you know, I'm going to do family too. And that would be our dad, because I think our dad would have some great stories to tell us stuff that I don't even remember. You know, even just hearing him hear him like, tell my husband who you know, wasn't there. I met him just like three years ago. So he's, you know, having my dad tell him stories about Sophia and I growing up and playing music and the crazy stories that we had. And the crazy situations we got in is always fun. And so I think good ones. Oh my gosh, you can't even imagine episode two will say road stories, Lord. But no, he's and he's a great storyteller. And he's a talker so he pours himself a cup of coffee and sit for hours and tell your story. He
Sophie:remembers everything he does remember me? I'm like, Oh, I remember that show. Like what days? I mean that person I was like, thank the Lord for dad because he remembers names and I'm not good with them.
Harry Cunningham:IV Sophy such an honor to spend time with you all this afternoon. Thank you so much. It means a lot that you were willing to do this. And I think sharing that message that it's another way of us continuing to reinforce that message that it's okay to be who you are. And no matter if you're struggling with weight or binge eating, or whatever that might be, or Lux or red skin or whatever it is, it doesn't matter. You're still beautiful and wonderful. You say it wonderfully. Me.
Sophie:Yeah. I love it.
Harry Cunningham:Perfect. So thank you so much. And we'll see you guys out on the road. Thank you for joining us for this episode of the good market podcast. A new episode will drop the second Tuesday of each month. So make sure you subscribe wherever you're listening. Give us a like a follow and share. And please leave a review so that we can reach even more people and grow even more good. Tune in next time to hear more stories from good people with great products supporting exceptional causes. We'll see you next month.
